Interview
Joe Duplantier
Gojira
Lineup:
Joe Duplantier - Vocals & Guitar
Christian Andreu - Guitar
Jean-Michel Labadie - Bass
Mario Duplantier - Drums
Click here to access the official Gojira website
Radio Rebellion Tour
Behemoth
Job For a Cowboy
Gojira
Beneath the Massacre
Chicago House of Blues
Interviewer: Karma E. Omowale
Photos: Erika Kristen Watt
Joe Duplantier of Gojira (Photo: Karma E. Omowale)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“It’s like giving life to someone, because we are the parents of the song and then we let them go…”

 

In case you hadn’t known, France’s Gojira is taking over the world of metal as we know it. Since the band’s maiden tour (with Children of Bodom), this band has gained mad respect from fans especially here in the States when the band converged on America during their opening slot on the Sacrament Tour back in March. Gojira has definitely started to make a name for themselves. The band is at an exciting stage in their career, they stormed North America again in the fall on the Radio Rebellion Tour with Job For a Cowboy & Behemoth and are in the process of writing follow-up to last year’s mammoth release, From Mars to Sirius. Join in conversation with the band’s dynamic singer, Joe Duplantier, as he discusses the magic of it all in regards to touring, playing with Brothers Cavalera in the Cavalera Conspiracy, creating their new album, etc… Hang on to your crown chakras…

 

Karma: Okay Mr. Duplantier, please share with the audience your involvement with the Cavalera Conspiracy.

 

Joe: It’s been a great experience, really. I was a big, big fan of Max & Igor’s since a long time. And when I first met them, I wasJoe Duplantier of Gojira (Photo: Erika Kristen Watt) nervous. They made me feel comfortable, right away. Max is such a sweet, sweet guy; [said through his thick French accent]…not Swedish. [Laughs] Igor is also a sweet guy so that’s the great part; I mean, it’s been a great experience. But I must say, that it been also a bit hard to be thrown like this in between these two brothers because I wasn’t really prepared, you know. They have been together since, forever, you know so…I needed maybe two or three days to get used to the situation. Finally its been very enriching. I was also able to bring something like personally in the composition. It was a bit strange to be with these guys that are like, regular dudes, you know. And at the same time, they are like…

 

Karma: …heroes to you.

 

Joe: [Nods head] …heroes to me so I had to deal with these feelings. So I had to work on that. But it’s very interesting because now I am confronted to that kind of people. Like say for example that guy Rex [Brown] from Pantera…

 

Karma: and Down.

 

Joe: [Acquiesces]…the bass player came in the studio, a guy from the Misfits came in the studio, Dino Cazares (Fear Factory)…

 

Karma: …and now Divine Heresy.

 

Joe: Yep, that kind of guys that are just, normal…I won’t ask them not for autographs or anything because I am working with these guys now and it feels great!

 

Karma: That’s awesome Joe!

 

Joe: It is awesome! [Smiles]

 

Karma: On to the new album, how’s it coming along?

 

Joe: We’re working on the compositions right now and it’s pretty exciting! But we started to work on this new album before taking a real break from the last tour, the Sacrament Tour. And we had some European festivals also and some gigs in France, Norway…Europe. Now we’re coming back to the States for another tour and it’s hard to, to be able to bring some new ideas and material when you’re touring all the time. So we have a lot of ideas, I’m working on the lyrics right now and the design for the cover. I’m pretty tired but excited at the same time, So now we have to put all these ideas together and record them.

 

Karma: How much pressure is being put on you guys to come up with a bigger, better product past From Mars to Sirius?

 

Joe: I know that I don’t want to release the album in August but…okay so there’s the band and there’s the management. All we want to do is take our time and lead our passion; I mean do exactly what we want to do. We are musicians because we like to chill out and grab a guitar suddenly and rock really, and that’s what we like to do… But it’s not like this in the real life, it’s much more complicated; I mean I would love to live this life, chill out and suddenly grab a guitar and go, “Hey, let’s go on tour!” [Laughs] “You know a lot of people want to see us, let’s go on tour!” It’s not like that! It’s a LOT of work and a lot of sacrifice. When you do concessions, the label and the management, the tour manager and the prime minister…they talk together! [Smirks]

 

Karma: [Blank countenance] The Prime Minister of France?

 

Joe: [Nods]

 

Karma: Okay, so you’re being a smart ass right now, right!

 

Joe: [Laughs hysterically] Okay, so all these people who talk about the band and they’ll say how the last tour was great but… But now the time has come and we need a new album. It’s totally unknown that we’re getting famous and I know it’s totally gonna work. I mean we are musicians okay, and we don’t give a fuck! We just want to chill out and grab a guitar suddenly. But [the label] have this chat about us and they give us a phone call. “I think we should release this album in May!” We have two options, it’s May or September…because in September, kids go back to school and they want to buy some new music. We don’t want to wait too long, because people forget about you. You  know that right?

 

Karma: All TOO well I am familiar with this concept Joe!

 

Joe: We have had several meetings and we decided it was wise to release the album before next summer.

 

Karma: Plus you can really take advantage of the summer festivals, etc.

 

Joe: Yeah, yeah! So it means it’s going to be out in May/June.

 

Karma: Of course since you’ve got your own studio you can afford to take a little more time but since this is a time sensitive issue but there’s something to be said about taking your time too.

 

Joe: Yes, it is a very good thing. Because we do everything, it can take more time because we have this option to…

 

Karma: …be a little more free.

 

Joe: Yeah, which is good but it drives you mad sometimes.

 

Karma: Since you are doing everything yourself, would you ever entertain the idea of an outside producer coming in?

 

Joe: Yes! Yeah, why not! It’s an option that…

 

Karma: …you’ve kicked around.

 

Joe: Yes, we’re actually going to talk about that in a couple of days when the rest of the band comes to the States.

 

Karma: Guess it goes without saying that you’re stoked for this upcoming tour?

 

Joe: The upcoming tour is going to be a BRUTAL tour! Very death metal and it’s probably even better for us than a hardcore tour, you know. It will be the first time in the States where we play with extreme death metal bands. It’s going to be very interesting because especially with Behemoth we have like common points with this band, maybe like the same influences. It will be interesting to see a new crowd. Like people who want to see Behemoth or Job For a Cowboy or even the first band Beneath the Massacre.

 

We like being in the States, we love that! We love new places like Chicago, New Orleans, Orlando, also and we’re playing San Francisco for the first time. [Eyes brighten] A lot of new things and its all-very exciting.

 

Karma: How does it feel to be able to represent your country with France having a relatively underground status to the world of metal, until now?

 

Joe: It feels good; it’s exciting because it’s one of the first times that a French band has had a career here in the States. That’s what we’re about, is to live but it’s cool!

 

Karma: What have you learned about yourself and your band mates as musicians over the years?

 

Joe: Very interesting question, it would take AGES to answer that one. [Laughs] I’ve learned, and I going to try to be effective, I learned how to manage my fears and my anger when I’m mad a someone or when I have that feeling, I learned to turn them into good vibrations and into music. SO I have this impression where I take my fears and suffering and pain… [Pauses]

 

Karma: …and channel them?

 

Joe: Yeah! And sculpt it, you know. I have this image of I put all this in front of me and I just do something with it, with my friends, my colleagues, my family…and we learn friendship; it’s a beautiful adventure. It’s hard to explain this to people usually. Especially when people go, “So how’s it going?” [Shrugs shoulders] “I don’t know, it’s going! It’s amazing, it’s fantastic!” It’s been ten years now.

 

Karma: Well suffice it to say, it’s been a great ride!

 

Joe: It’s great!

 

Karma: And just to think ten years in and it’s only the beginning, here in the States and all…

 

Joe: Yes, it’s only the beginning.

 

Karma: So I had to look this up, in regards to Sirius C- Dogon: Nommos, that roughly translates into “Day of the Fish”. Is that religious belief the basis behind the concept of From Mars to Sirius?

 

Joe: Not really “religious” beliefs,

 

Karma: Well then more of a spiritual influence?

 

Joe: Yes, spiritual. I believe that we don’t know everything. I like to talk of things that we are not certain of, you know. Human beings, people in general are so certain that we know everything, “Okay, are they there? I have this number. I have my I.D. I have this and my car. I live there, and my name is” But so what? Finally, what do you know? [Laughs] We know that we live Joe Duplantier of Gojira (Photo: Erika Kristen Watt)on a planet surrounded by never ending space so it’s exciting. I like to read things about aliens or new planets to discover, ocean planets and uh, whales. [Laughs] Alien whales, I dunno, just dreams, just imagination. But to me, spirituality is to be able to speak as a child with questions and not being certain of everything all the time, and I like that!

 

Karma: Do you believe in the afterlife?

 

Joe: [Without hesitation] Yes!

 

Karma: And what is your take on "god"?

 

Joe: It’s what I’m going to say is pretty strange because I think it’s very simple but at the same time it could be like blasphemy but I would say that we are god! We are the creator of our own lives and god for me is infinity. The smallest parts of my body, of your body, we’re all linked by the same energy and we are all a part of the same light. There is light, and we are light and we are god. That’s what I would say! I mean god is a beautiful word because each one of us has its own definition of god. Yeah, to me its pretty powerful.

 

Karma: Well that was a powerful answer! Switching gears a bit, I have to say that I loved the album! It’s one of the most original ones for that year, or otherwise!

 

Joe: [Humbled] Thank you very much! That’s nice to hear.

 

Karma: Sounds like you were able to exorcise your demons as From Mars to Sirius served as a testament to your personal evolution of enlightenment and betterment.

 

Joe: [Acquiesces] Yeah!

 

Karma: How hard was it for you to be able to put into words what you were feeling? How labourious was it for you to do?

 

Joe: Yes, it was hard. At the same time it’s like the lyrics just come to me so I have to be patient. Maybe for a week I will write things and I will try to think of what’s in front of me, you know the ideas and the feelings, the experiences and try to be positive and constructive. But at the same time I have to deal with my demons, my fears, my anger, jealousy, etc. Sometimes I like to talk about the fact that I feel lost or just without any strength. And sometimes I just “feel” [said in his finest French accent] life, you know. Yes, it’s hard to write lyrics. I don’t know, it’s hard to explain. It’s like giving life to someone, because we are the parents of the song and then we let them go and then it belongs to the world, to the audience, the people. It’s not us, it’s like when you give birth.

 

Karma: Such a poetic way of putting it. Never have I heard it quite in those terms.

 

Joe: [Laughs] Cool!

 

Karma: Well for you “not being able to explain” it came out very well! Did you intend to make an album over an hour long [1:06:52]? However, you were able to do some amazing things in that time frame.

 

Joe: Yeah, we just let things go. I had an idea of a short album with short songs, may be nine, ten songs and finally we have a one-week album! [Chuckles] It’s like a very long trip to hear that and the songs are something like seven to eight minutes so, it was not planned, you know. It just came like that. And we like it, finally. It’s intense! Very, it’s almost work to hear to listen to this album.

 

Karma: But having said that, it’s a journey, a very enjoyable journey.

 

Joe: But you have to hear it at the right moment so you won’t get bored, I think.

 

Karma: Hmmm…I will disagree with you on this. l I think even if you were bored this album will pull you out of it. You don’t have to even be in a particular mood to listen to this album…but this is just my 2¢.

 

Joe: Well I guess it’s because I’m in the band its different for me,

 

Karma: And of course since you did create the songs you would think differently but there’s something new to discover every time you hear it.

 

Joe: Oh well thanks! Cool!! So then finally it’s not that long, huh?

 

Karma: No! The hour passes very quickly!

 

Joe: Well I almost feel there are two albums in this one album. We could have two albums with the ideas and what I see in it. The materials for two albums mixed in one, but I’m happy with it.

 

Karma: What’s your favorite song off the album and why?

 

Joe: Today it’s “World to Come” because there is hope, because its about the world that I would like to see for the next generation and for me later. I like it because I’m getting old, I’m 31… [Laughs hysterically]

 

Karma: Oh poor you, you’re so ancient!

 

Joe: [Smiles] “World to Come” is mid tempo; it’s more light, it’s not as heavy as the rest of the album. So on one of the French tours, we had an hour and a half so we had the time to play three albums, a lot of things. We used to play that song, and on stage I mean man, I changed my guitar, I took a Telecaster, the sound was changing and refreshing so I really like that song.

 

Karma: If not music, then what?

 

Joe: Baseball!

 

Karma: [Shocked] Really?

 

Joe: Yeah! I love baseball; I’m a pitcher. In France we don’t have so many teams, you know. When I was 15-years old I wanted to be professional, you know. It was impossible so I formed a band.

 

Karma: Is there a Gojira song that sums up your life in a nutshell?

 

Joe: “Backbone” actually, the lyrics are about I feel indestructible. I believe that! When you believe in life after death, life after life…you feel indestructible. I like this feeling, when I’m down; I like to think about these things. If you’re alive [pauses, switches gears] if you’ve got an arm, for example, you’re still alive. If you’ve got the other one too…legs, if you take off the eyes and if you take off the head, are you really dead? It’s just the body doesn’t work anymore. We are more than just flesh, water and bone you know. When you look at someone, you see much more. I like to stay in this idea and make something grow, like a fire that you’re building, you put wood on it. This idea I’m just making it stronger and it makes me feel indestructible.

 

Karma: Something else I wanted to ask you concept wise, what do whales represent/mean to you?

 

Gojira From Mars to SiriusJoe: Several things, as you said Sirius C, you know the fish, [smiles] I’m fascinated by whales. They’re so intelligent, scientists wonder why they have this grey matter, the whales have so much grey matter, even more than human beings. And they don’t understand yet why because they don’t have to build houses or go to school or go to work. So why are they so intelligent, finally? They have migration, we don’t explain because it’s not for food, it is not for reproduction. Some say that it’s kind of healing for the earth. So they move like the chakras of the earth. [Grins] So it’s like if the whales were very conscious of what’s happening on earth and they know us. I have special feeling with them. I think we have things to learn from the whales; I love those animals and we just kill them. Some countries still hunt them and I wanted to put a flying whale on the cover, I think it’s just beautiful.

 

Karma: And that it is! Is there one common misconception about the band that people may have about you and/or the band that you would like to dispel?

 

Joe: Oh yeah, [laughs] yes a lot. Some say that we’re eco-warriors which is cool but we’re concerned a lot. We do give money to Greenpeace for example, a little bit because we don’t have a lot of money, of course. We give a bit of money so we can have the paper each month…sorry, I don’t have the words, if this were in French, this would go faster. [Laughs sheepishly] We like to know what they do in Greenpeace but French Press, for example used to say that we’re eco-warriors. They forget the spiritual part! They just ask, “so what do you think of this boat polluting this or that?” That’s a misunderstanding, and that’s kind of cool. Some say that we’re kind of weird because of flying whales. [Chuckle] So they we are hippies, well why not! Well I feel you understand pretty well.

 

Karma: Definitely, my name is Karma after all! [We all laugh] What would you like the music community to remember about Gojira?

 

Joe: [Thinks] I dunno, brutality!

 

Karma: If you could commission a band to do a Gojira cover, particularly off this album, who would do it and which song would it be?

 

Joe: Wow, that’s a question! Hmm…Metallica! YEAH! Why not! I’m free. Metallica playing “Backbone!” That would be awesome! I don’t think it’s gonna happen but maybe they’re gonna read this interview and something will happen.

 

Karma: Yeah, that would be awesome indeed! But hey stranger things have happened Joe! Stranger things! Now do you have any special messages to your fans?

 

Joe: For the American fans, beware, Godzilla’s coming for you [Laughs hysterically] and for the others, be patient!

 

 

Thanks to Joe for allowing us a glimpse into his world and sharing also to the Gojira camp for hooking this interview up! Also click here to access interview with Sharlee D'Angelo of Arch Enemy; where Joe poses an interesting to him!

 

 

 

Related Links of Interest

Ø    Photos / Review from Sacrament Tour 2007

 Ø   Interview with Randy Blythe of Lamb of God

Ø   Review of From Mars to Sirus

Ø      Photos / Review from their maiden American tour